TDR, TeX, character generation

A thread of 2 messages, 12 November 1990 to 13 November 1990, in the order they were sent.

#1756 TDR, TeX, character generation

I don't recall who voted "no" on TeX, but I have to say this guy doesn't know
what he's talking about.  TeX is not cumbersome.  Sending proprietary files
formatted for one word processor or another and trying to convert them is
cumbersome.  With TeX, you send the source file as plain text, and the other
person can make instant use of it.  I assume that the people on this list are
intelligent enough to see the advantage of using the net to write this thing
up.

Also, for those who are ignorant, it is possible to create a .sty file for TeX
which takes care of the messy formatting business and creates easy-to-use
macros that anyone can learn.  In other words, you can do the following:

\documentstyle{travellerbook}

\begin{document}

[stick text in here]

\end{document}

and that's all she wrote.  I would even be willing to create such a file
and distribute it on the list.

Look, let's be fair and realistic.  Fair in that everyone who wants to should
be able to work on part of the project and have input.  Realistic in that if we
only let a few select people do the actual work, it will never get done.

About automating the generation rules:  Good.  I am glad someone suggested
this.  We should make executables available to PC and Mac users for character
generation, star system generation, starship design, and world map generation.
We should also make the sourcecode available for people to port to other
systems.

Character generation: The homeworld limitations of law level and tech level are
a good idea, but their implementation in MegaTraveller stinks.  Let's fix them,
and create a chart that clearly lists the minimum Law and Tech levels for each
skill.

Robert P. Poole                       [email removed]
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#1760 Re: (1756) TDR, TeX, character generation

 In message 1756, [email removed] (Robert P. Poole) writes:
 >
 >I don't recall who voted "no" on TeX, but I have to say this guy
 >doesn't know what he's talking about.  TeX is not cumbersome.
 >Sending proprietary files formatted for one word processor or another
 >and trying to convert them is cumbersome.  With TeX, you send the
 >source file as plain text, and the other person can make instant use
 >of it.  I assume that the people on this list are intelligent enough
 >to see the advantage of using the net to write this thing up.

     How about a controversial suggestion?  Let's not use TeX.  Let's
not use *roff.  Let's not use postscript.  Let's not use a word
processor formatted file.

     Why don't we just use ordinary flat ASCII?  It can be moved from
machine to machine with relative ease, is easily mutable for use with
almost anything else (most word processors that I know of will import
flat ASCII text without too much trouble), and is easily *human
readable*, unlike most formatter source.

 >Look, let's be fair and realistic.  Fair in that everyone who wants
 >to should be able to work on part of the project and have input.
 >Realistic in that if we only let a few select people do the actual
 >work, it will never get done.

     I agree.  If we just use ASCII text, that makes it that much
easier for *everyone* to use, and you don't need any extra software
to use it.


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