Re: Cargo

A thread of 2 messages, 12 November 1990 to 13 November 1990, in the order they were sent.

#1757 Re: Cargo

>From: FELLOWS STEVEN B -5 CR [email removed]
>
>  Someone mentioned that they could not understand why it would cost
>different amounts of money to ship different material.  100 tonnes of feathers
>as oppossed to 100 tonnes of machine parts.  Well, in my system, it would cost
>more for the feathers, since they take up more volume.

Waitasec.  I thought 100 tons referred to volume, as in equivalent
volume of 100 tons of liquid hydrogen.  The rest of the ship is
designed using volume-tons and this makes it easy to figure out
how much space you have left in your cargo hold.

Incidently, this is kinda like the way merchant ships plying the
oceans in the real world are measured--volume in tons of water.
Why?  Something to do with how much weight your ship can hold
before it sinks.

Of course, I can't think of any similar justification for using
liquid hydrogen volume-tons in Traveller.  Maybe if you wanted
to land your ship on a really cold gas (liquid) giant.
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John H. Kim
[email removed]
[email removed]

#1763 Re: CARGO

Orcinus orca [email removed] wrote:

>From: FELLOWS STEVEN B -5 CR [email removed]
>
>  Someone mentioned that they could not understand why it would cost
>different amounts of money to ship different material.  100 tonnes of feathers
>as oppossed to 100 tonnes of machine parts.  Well, in my system, it would cost
>more for the feathers, since they take up more volume.

Waitasec.  I thought 100 tons referred to volume, as in equivalent
volume of 100 tons of liquid hydrogen.  The rest of the ship is
designed using volume-tons and this makes it easy to figure out
how much space you have left in your cargo hold.

End of jokim's post.
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Okay,   my error.    I assumed that you were still talking about mass.  If you
were referring to what I was talking about in an earlier post that 100 tonnes of cargo implies either 100 metric tonnes of mass or 100 cubic meters (volume) then they should cost the same.

I don't think it referres to that as the volume of an equivalent mass of liquid
hydrogen: that would be a cumbersome way of working.  Of course, this could be
how it is referred to in Traveller, for something being too cumbersome has not
stopped them before.

I have never designed a starship for Traveller.  However, designing a cargo
vessel for 2300AD, I just determined the volume of the cargo hold that I wanted,
and then determined the mass of the shell and supports used in manufacturing the
hold.  Anyway, it is not too unlikely that the designers use a different unit
of measure than the users.


Steven B. Fellows
[email removed].