Beyond and TL17 Worlds

A thread of 3 messages, 7 December 1990 to 10 December 1990, in the order they were sent.

#1959 Beyond and TL17 Worlds

[unnamed sender] · 7 December 1990

Hi there!  I'm a new member of the TML, although I've played Traveller in
its various incarnations for several years.  In catching up on the
discussions in this group, a couple of questions for y'all came to mind --

Some time ago, there was a discussion about the validity of the Paranoia
Press version of the Beyond map, and the question came up whether Digest
Group had plans in that direction or not.  I don't know either, but
someone who has a copy of the old Beyond map might be able to tell
something.  In Trav.Digest #20, the Trojan Reach map shows a gov't called
the Florian League in subsector E of the sector which seems to stretch
into subsector H of the Beyond.  If this gov't doesn't exist on the old
PP map, then the Beyond has been totally wiped.  Despite the problems
this might cause (Garonne/Haldensleben was referred to in both GDW's
"Azhanti High Lightning" and as part of PP's "Vanguard Reaches" sector)
this might not be all bad.  The old Vanguard Reaches had _four_ TL17
worlds, three of which were Zhodani clients...in comparison to the single
one in the entire Imperium.

Which brings me to number two -- what's the deal with Sabmyqys?  From what
I understand, there once was an article or reference to them in JTAS, may
it rest in peace. :)  Would somebody *please* clue me in to some info
about them?  I'm very curious about this elusive race who somehow has
managed to flaunt the apparent fluke of probability that keeps the Imperium
in general at TL16 and below.... :)

Thank you in advance,

- - --Steve
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#1968 Re: (1959) Beyond and TL17 worlds

[unnamed sender] · 10 December 1990 · reply to #1959

The Beyond and Vanguard Reaches were punted over four years ago, being
as they were horrendously technologically overpowered. The only TL17 world
in existence as of now is the world of Sabmiqys, whose denizens are sentient
robots that make a habit of dissecting visitors to see how they work. (A
recent issue of CHALLENGE had an article on them: disappointingly boring.)

metlay

#1972 Re:(1959) Beyond and TL17 Worlds

Alan Huscroft · 10 December 1990 · reply to #1959

> From: [email removed]

>             In Trav.Digest #20, the Trojan Reach map shows a gov't called
> the Florian League in subsector E of the sector which seems to stretch
> into subsector H of the Beyond.  If this gov't doesn't exist on the old
> PP map, then the Beyond has been totally wiped.

There was no Florian League in PP's version of Beyond.  I haven't looked
at the maps for a while, but I think subsector H was the Darkling Regions,
with little or no large-scale government.  I believe that DGP's Trojan
Reach is more or less completely incompatible with PP's Beyond, and
effectively drives the final nail into the coffin of Paranoia Press.

> Which brings me to number two -- what's the deal with Sabmyqys?  From what
> I understand, there once was an article or reference to them in JTAS, may
> it rest in peace. :)  Would somebody *please* clue me in to some info
> about them?  I'm very curious about this elusive race who somehow has
> managed to flaunt the apparent fluke of probability that keeps the Imperium
> in general at TL16 and below.... :)

I haven't read this article (in Challenge 28) for a long time, but I
don't think that Sabmiqys was ever a member of the Imperium.  If I
recall correctly, the world was strictly isolationist, and their high
technology was all their own work.  There's no specific reason why
Imperial worlds shouldn't eventually achieve higher tech levels --
they just haven't managed it yet.

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