Names

A thread of 4 messages, 17 September 1991 to 23 September 1991, in the order they were sent.

#2868 Names

  This is not about weapons or ships or combat or any other of those hard
subjects I'm usually commenting, it's about last names.

  On real-world terra there is a profusion of last names in many languages.
Most of them means something but most of the time the name is treated like a
label which only meaning comes from what it indicates. The names Smith,
King, and Thatcher comes to mind, because most people don't think "Aha, one
that makes horseshoes, a monarch, and one that fixes roofs." when they hear
those names.

  It seems that, if given time, titles (even job-related) transforms into names.
Witness all the 'Baron' and 'Kahn' running around as some kind of proof of this.
My question is: Does this trend continue? Will the last names 'Chairman',
'Manager' and 'President' make their appearance some time?

- -bertil-
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"C News and then die"

#2871 RE: (2868) Names

I doubt manager, chairman (person?), or president will become last names.

You're missing an important point: those last names came out of the
practice of naming people by profession, ie- John the Archer, Lars the
Smith, and Tim the Enchanter :)

People just dropped the 'the' after awhile.

It's one type of common naming techniques.

Others-
animals- "john Bearclaw"
actions- "john runner-over-water"
descriptive- "john redeye"
parental- "john ericson" < "john eric's son"
clan- "john O'Henry" < "john of the Henries" (mac and mc I assume are
similar, but from Gaelic)
professional- "john carpenter" < "john the carpenter"
numeral- "john unthirtu" < "john 132"

Oh, sorry... numerical derivations haven't occurred yet... ;)

- -Me
[Pooh Bear incarnate.]

#2873 Re: Names...

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#2882 Re: Names...

> From: William Henry Timmins [email removed]
> Subject: (2871) RE: (2868) Names
>
> I doubt manager, chairman (person?), or president will become last names.

  Ok, chairsophont then:)

> You're missing an important point: those last names came out of the
> practice of naming people by profession, ie- John the Archer, Lars the
> Smith, and Tim the Enchanter :)

  Well, that is true for Margaret the Thatcher but not Bengt the Baron or
Stephen the King. At the time people were named by profession, the average
king would have taken a very dim view on any and all Stephens calling themselves
'King':)

  And there are families where the title of, for example president, seems to
be passed down as if inherited.

> - -Me
> [Pooh Bear incarnate.]

- -bertil-
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