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A thread of 3 messages, 31 July 1987 to 31 July 1987, in the order they were sent.

#38 (no subject)

Greetings,

Some questions have arisen lately:

1. How accurate are the ship diagrams shown in the books?

    The book indicates the staterooms require 56 cubic
    meters, yet most ships' diagrams show a stateroom
    has a floor space of 3 meters x 3 meters.
    With a 2.5 meter high ceiling, those staterooms
    would only be occupying 22.5 cubic meters.

    Assuming a 2.5 meter high ceiling, a typical
    stateroom should be 4 meters x 5 meters
    (the remaining 6 cubic meters could be used for
    plumbing, air, & electrical).

2. How do you increase the skill level for a robot?

    Page 35 of Book 8 says that skills above level 4
    can not be bought but can be learned by the robot.
    It also says that the information on how this is
    done is in the URP chapter.  Well ...  I haven't
    found this information in Book 8 and it is
    definitely not in the 3 pages of the URP chapter.


3. Should the additional strength & endurance gained by battle dress
    be used when computing damage taken by the individual?

    If so, is the damage removed first from the battle dress
    or is the damage shared between the person and the battle dress?



Thanks for the help,

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#39 Inaccurate Deck Plans??? Not really...

> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 87 12:32:15 PDT
> From: [email removed] (Michael D. Smith)
> To: [email removed]

> 1. How accurate are the ship diagrams shown in the books?

>     The book indicates the staterooms require 56 cubic
>     meters, yet most ships' diagrams show a stateroom
>     has a floor space of 3 meters x 3 meters.
>     With a 2.5 meter high ceiling, those staterooms
>     would only be occupying 22.5 cubic meters.
>
>     Assuming a 2.5 meter high ceiling, a typical
>     stateroom should be 4 meters x 5 meters
>     (the remaining 6 cubic meters could be used for
>     plumbing, air, & electrical).

Hmm.  Guess I better whip out my:

	Supplement 7, Traders and Gunboats
	Copyright 1980, by Game Designers' Workshop, Inc.
	Page 5.

							"STARSHIP DECK PLANS
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
	"The creation of starship deck plan data is based on the assumption
that one ton of mass displacement equals fourteen cubic meters.  The starship
displacement ton is derived from the volume of one ton of liquid hydrogen, the
material used as fuel for starships.
	"Since the square grid scale used for deck plans is 1.5 meters [sic]
squares, a ceiling height of three meters means that two floor squares,
extended floor to ceiling equals four 1.5 meter cubes or about 14 cubic meters
(1.5x1.5x1.5x4=13.5 cubic meters), or one ton.  If a 100-ton ship were mapped
as a one-level square, it would have two hundred grid squares within.
	"Allowances of approximately 10% (plus or minus) were made in most
areas to allow for proper access and representation of specific items within
the ship.  For example, crew quarters call for four tons per person (in Book
2); the actual tonnage allocated to staterooms stands at less than that, but
the remaining area is take [sic] up in communal facilities such as galley,
mess, and recreation lounges.
	"In addition, a limited volume of passages has been added to some
starships.  Passages and access ways which have no other use may be safely
added to a ship without affecting its volume or displacement for construction
purposes; such additional passages should amount to no more than an additional
10% of the total ship volume."

So this means that a 200-ton ship can actually look like (200 tons + 10%
fudge-factor) + 10% hallways = 200 tons * 1.1 * 1.1 = 242 tons on a deck
plan.  Even the miniscule 100-ton Type S Scout ship gets another ~21 tons
out of this arrangement(!)

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| |    / _ \   James T. Perkins, [email removed], 629-1149
| |__ | |_| |  Tektronix Logic Analyzers, DAS System Software, Display
|[address removed]

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#40 (no subject)

Subject: Inaccurate Deck Plans???  Not really...

> Date: 31 Jul 87 13:08:00 PDT (Fri)
> From: James T. Perkins [email removed]
>
> > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 87 12:32:15 PDT
> > From: [email removed] (Michael D. Smith)
> > To: [email removed]
>
> > 1. How accurate are the ship diagrams shown in the books?
>
> >     The book indicates the staterooms require 56 cubic
> >     meters, yet most ships' diagrams show a stateroom
> >     has a floor space of 3 meters x 3 meters.
> >     With a 2.5 meter high ceiling, those staterooms
> >     would only be occupying 22.5 cubic meters.
> >
> >     Assuming a 2.5 meter high ceiling, a typical
> >     stateroom should be 4 meters x 5 meters
> >     (the remaining 6 cubic meters could be used for
> >     plumbing, air, & electrical).
>
> Hmm.  Guess I better whip out my:
>
> 	Supplement 7, Traders and Gunboats
> 	Copyright 1980, by Game Designers' Workshop, Inc.
> 	Page 5.
>
> 							"STARSHIP DECK PLANS
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 	"The creation of starship deck plan data is based on the assumption
> that one ton of mass displacement equals fourteen cubic meters.  The starship
> displacement ton is derived from the volume of one ton of liquid hydrogen, the
> material used as fuel for starships.
> 	"Since the square grid scale used for deck plans is 1.5 meters [sic]
> squares, a ceiling height of three meters means that two floor squares,
> extended floor to ceiling equals four 1.5 meter cubes or about 14 cubic meters
> (1.5x1.5x1.5x4=13.5 cubic meters), or one ton.  If a 100-ton ship were mapped
> as a one-level square, it would have two hundred grid squares within.
> 	"Allowances of approximately 10% (plus or minus) were made in most
> areas to allow for proper access and representation of specific items within
> the ship.  For example, crew quarters call for four tons per person (in Book
> 2); the actual tonnage allocated to staterooms stands at less than that, but
> the remaining area is take [sic] up in communal facilities such as galley,
> mess, and recreation lounges.
> 	"In addition, a limited volume of passages has been added to some
> starships.  Passages and access ways which have no other use may be safely
> added to a ship without affecting its volume or displacement for construction
> purposes; such additional passages should amount to no more than an additional
> 10% of the total ship volume."
>
>  _	___
> | |    / _ \   James T. Perkins, [email removed], 629-1149
> | |__ | |_| |  Tektronix Logic Analyzers, DAS System Software, Display
> |[address removed]
>

Thanks for the quick response and clarification.

The above indicates that 1 ton takes 2 grid squares with a 3 meter
ceiling.

Why a 3 meter ceiling?  This seems quite high for humaniti?


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