Answers to a couple questions

A thread of 3 messages, 14 July 1992 to 14 July 1992, in the order they were sent.

#4453 Re: Answers to a couple questions

Robert S. Dean · 14 July 1992 · reply to #4452

2G Kellogg writes:
> Ref's Handbook
> 101 Vehicles
> Hard Times
> COACC
> Book 8:  Robots
> Challenge 61
> The Wet Navy stuff also appears in challenge, but I forget what issues
> (53?, 54?, 60?)
> I have gone back to Striker to find some items that were not in any
> book after that ...
> I have also gone back to JTAS 21 for missile design rules.
> (Rob?  Have I left anything out?)

That sounds pretty complete to me.  Anyone looking at my compiled design
archives will find that I used a combination of George Herbert's naval
design system, and some cumbersome rummaging about in Mark's Handbook of
Mechanical Engineering to do various watercraft designs prior to the
publication of Wet Navy in Challenge.  As the issue now stands, I need to
write up the hybrid system for watercraft using the better parts of both
systems.

Rob Dean
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#4452 Answers to a couple questions

[unnamed sender] · 14 July 1992

Just a few questions I thought I'd answer for you all:

}        What books do you base your designs on?  Just the Ref's Handbook?  I
}remember from an earlier posting that you used Book 8: Robots for bots, any
}other supplements like this you use?

Lesse:
Ref's Handbook

101 Vehicles
(has a few construction rules for adding weapons not in the Ref guide)

Hard Times
Primitive spacecraft

COACC
Aircraft (errata in challenge 36)

Book 8:  Robots
Brain construction and computing human equivalences
There's additional stuff for bots in 101 robots
Mainly I will construct a robot body using the Ref's Guide and then install
a brain from Book 8.  There are some devices and equipment in Book 8 that
are not in the ref's guide, when the same item is listed in both default to
the ref's guide.

Challenge 61
Vehicles TL-0 to TL 4

The Wet Navy stuff also appears in challenge, but I forget what issues
(53?, 54?, 60?)

I have gone back to Striker to find some items that were not in any
book after that to find the size and weight of things like damper boxes,
cranes, plows, nuclear weapons...

I have also gone back to JTAS 21 for missile design rules.
(But I incorporated book 8 brains for the missiles)

(Rob?  Have I left anything out?)
- -------------

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Scott 2G Kellogg

#4454 Re: Answers to a couple questions

[unnamed sender] · 14 July 1992 · reply to #4453

Hmmm.

Rob is right.  I have used George Herbert's naval designs a few times
prior to Wet Navy coming out.  And some guesswork on a lot of naval
designs that I put up before George's stuff.

I think I used George's design system on the SHADO Skydiver, and the
Herbert Dean Meson Submarine.

The designs previous to that pulled engine statistics directly from
books on warships along with their stated performance.  The only thing
there that wasn't a matter of common sence was the size and weight of
the propellers.  I forget what I used, (I think it was Rob's suggestion
to use the transmission of a tracked design with volume, weight, cost
multiplied by 2)

Since Wet NAvy has come out, I use it, but I think Rob is right:  We
need to incorporate George
's ideas into a Good design system for ships.

Scott 2G Kellogg