Question about allegiance codes

A thread of 4 messages, 7 February 1993 to 10 February 1993, in the order they were sent.

#5167 Question about allegiance codes

I was looking through the sunbane data on the spinward marches and
came upon an unusual allegiance code: "Fa". It applies to about
three worlds in the old Zhodani-Imperial neutral zone, Arden/Vilis
being one of them. I'm guessing that "Fa" means Factional, but I'm
really not sure. Does anybody know if I'm right or wrong? I'm also
guessing that "Cs" means Client State, "Dr" means Droyne, and "Na" means
Non-aligned. I think these last three are all fairly obvious, but if
I'm wrong, please let me know.

On another topic, the Arrival Vengeance, I'm wondering if this
Avery character might become important in some of GDW's future
history.

    **Possible Spoilers Alert**

Wouldn't it be cool if he was the clone of a certain royal
personage (or even the clone of a clone, if you don't buy GDW's
assurance about this certain royal personage's authenticity)?
Hey, game companies can always lie :-)

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#5168 Re: Allegiance Codes

[email removed] (james vassilakos) writes:
> I was looking through the sunbane data on the spinward marches and
> came upon an unusual allegiance code: "Fa". It applies to about
> three worlds in the old Zhodani-Imperial neutral zone, Arden/Vilis
> being one of them. I'm guessing that "Fa" means Factional, but I'm
> really not sure. Does anybody know if I'm right or wrong? I'm also
> guessing that "Cs" means Client State, "Dr" means Droyne, and "Na" means
> Non-aligned. I think these last three are all fairly obvious, but if
> I'm wrong, please let me know.

Fa should be the Federation of Arden.  You are right on Cs and Na
(client-state and non-aligned, respectively).  I'm not sure, but isn't
Dr for the Darrian Confedration?

> On another topic, the Arrival Vengeance, I'm wondering if this
> Avery character might become important in some of GDW's future
> history.

Possibly.  Or possibly not.

> Wouldn't it be cool if he was the clone of a certain royal
> personage (or even the clone of a clone, if you don't buy GDW's
> assurance about this certain royal personage's authenticity)?
> Hey, game companies can always lie :-)

It would be really cool, but pretty predictable, too.  It would also be
really cool if he were exactly what Strephon said he is, a refugee boy
that Strephon adopted.

If Avery is Strephon's clone, then it should become obvious as he grows
older.  If not, his future is a lot more open --- you can actually do
more things with the character if he's *not* Strephon's clone.

Finally, there is a lot to be said for not deciding which it is until
you actually write the adventure that uses that information.  I have it
on very good authority that "The Real Strephon" was (in the minds of the
people who wrote him into the Rebellion era) "supposed" to "really" be a
robot (designed by a certain well travelled and knighted roboticist,
with similar capabilities to another well travelled and knighted robot).
But it was never *said* what the "Real Strephon" was until it became
important to an adventure plotline.  Arrival Vengeance pretty clearly
establishes that the "Real Strephon" is the real Strephon, but is
compatible with all of the other published information on the "Real
Strephon" to date.  Although it does leave one loose end --- if the
"Real" emporer was out travelling, why were the Emperess and the Grand
Princess left behind?  (And for that matter, what was a clone doing
holding court and conducting diplomacy?).  Oh, well --- you can't have
everything.


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#5170 Allegiance codes

James Vassilakos writes:

>I was looking through the sunbane data on the spinward marches and
>came upon an unusual allegiance code: "Fa". It applies to about
>three worlds in the old Zhodani-Imperial neutral zone, Arden/Vilis
>being one of them. I'm guessing that "Fa" means Factional, but I'm
>really not sure. Does anybody know if I'm right or wrong? I'm also
>guessing that "Cs" means Client State, "Dr" means Droyne, and "Na" means
>Non-aligned. I think these last three are all fairly obvious, but if
>I'm wrong, please let me know.

Right on the last three. 'Fa' simply means 'Federation of Arden'.

>On another topic, the Arrival Vengeance, I'm wondering if this
>Avery character might become important in some of GDW's future
>history.
>
>    **Possible Spoilers Alert**
>
>Wouldn't it be cool if he was the clone of a certain royal
>personage (or even the clone of a clone, if you don't buy GDW's
>assurance about this certain royal personage's authenticity)?
>Hey, game companies can always lie :-)

It seems obvious that he is, but I don't see what practical value
that can ever have. After all, there does not appear to ba any
way to distinguish between the clone of an emperor and the clone
of a clone of that emperor.



      Hans Rancke
University of Copenhagen
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#5179 The Real Emperor - really?

[email removed] (Derek Wildstar) writes:
>
> If Avery is Strephon's clone, then it should become obvious as he grows
> older.  If not, his future is a lot more open --- you can actually do
> more things with the character if he's *not* Strephon's clone.

Who here has seen the film "The Boys From Brazil", in which Dr. Josef
Mengele (Gregory Peck) tries to grow clones of Hitler?  The catch is that
in order for them to grow up as clone Fuehrers, their lives must be made
similar to that of the original.  The implication here is that unless
someone goes to a lot of trouble to give Avery a good Imperial upbringing,
i.e. identical to Strephon's, then all he will turn out to be is someone
looking exactly like Strephon, meaning you can *still* do the same things
with the character as if he's not Strephon's clone - but you can do a few
other things as well, e.g. what happens if he finds out he is Strephon's
clone?

>					Arrival Vengeance pretty clearly
> establishes that the "Real Strephon" is the real Strephon, but is
> compatible with all of the other published information on the "Real
> Strephon" to date.  Although it does leave one loose end --- if the
> "Real" emporer was out travelling, why were the Emperess and the Grand
> Princess left behind?

Marital problems?  Or maybe that isn't the real Prince Charles we've been
looking at over here lately?

>			(And for that matter, what was a clone doing
> holding court and conducting diplomacy?).  Oh, well --- you can't have
> everything.

Yes you can, if you leave a clone behind to do the work while you go on
holiday.  Then you come back and do some work, and the clone goes on
holiday.  The Imperium gets an Emperor on the throne every day of the
year, who is not over-stressed because he never gets any rest.

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