You are invited to a wake.....

A thread of 4 messages, 19 April 1993 to 29 April 1993, in the order they were sent.

#5398 You are invited to a wake.....

WARNING there are possible spoilers from Survial Margin below in this major
rant about the "New Era"

Today the 16th of April, 1993 (Solomani Reckoning), I realized I lost an old
friend that I had known since walking into a Gamekeeper twelve years ago and
picking up a little black box with red lettering on it.

Now, I had been willing to cut GDW some slack on this virus thing, after all
what is the universe but a little bad science fiction gone factual, but a
major essence of why I bought Traveller products all these years went a
wimpering poof when I bought Survival Margin today. Traveller, meant more
than a new set of rules to build starships and create funny codes to build
worlds and npc's. It meant more than rules for personal combat from banging
the foul bastard on the head with the club to vaporizing the little snitch
with an FGMP-13. The Traveller Universe was a socio-political/ technical
vision of a complex society in an Intersteller era. There was ability to
imagine oneself as the crafty free trader sneaking off with the lucrutive
gems that you bartered off that barbarian leader, before the Tukera Lines
exploration division captain even noticed this new world.  It was the
Passenger liner steward thwarting the hijacking of the Empress Arbatella on
the Vland to Capital run. It was the being the fanatical SOLSEC agent,
evading Imperial Intelligence on Terra, carrying the explosives and cash for
the resistance's next terrorist strike. It was the Aslan of honor, travelling
through the slime of Startown, to fullfill the Clan leaders plans. It was
being the Commander of a Strike Cruiser on a deep raid into Zhodani Space.
Traveller, was the struggle of extraordinary characters trying to survive and
prosper, while competing  steller empires of different species, cultures and
political idealogies vyed for supremecy in the game of princes. Traveller was
the "Sun never sets on the Third Imperium" or "the Solomani Manifest Destiny
is inevitable", it was the Freighter Captain who undocked  his subsidized
merchant secure in the knowledge that the Navy was on patrol and therefore
trade was safe and could be profitable.

Then came MegaTraveller with the Final War, life wasn't so safe in some
areas, but there was High Drama. You had the clash of new and old empires,
there were still safe area's where the old crafty merchant could still
maneuver his Type A free trader to profit and glory.

Now comes this bloody virus and Survival Margin. Gone is the complex
socio-political/technical environment. Gone are the mighty stellar empires,
Gone is the Merchant Captain of a free trader who crossed the breath of the
Third Imperium for the almighty Imperial Credit. Friends, we have gone from
the struggle of Rome and Carthage straight into the Dark Ages where Hanfred
the Drunk hacks off a peasants head to steal 4 cows.  From having an NPC who
broke into the Imperial Research Center to steal a warbot prototype, we now
will have a cold yokel backwater peasant whose big worry is who is molesting
his wildesheep.

We have a choice of being a fraidy-cat Zhodani dominated inhabitant of the
Regency, a merciless snatcher of chickens from this Star Viking Reformation
whatever it is,  an uneducated barbaric feudal lord or his wretched peasant
from  your choice of the former ...Imperium, Aslan Hierate or Solmani
Confederation.

Gone is the reason to run to the Game Store and get the latest copy of
Challenge or TAS to read the latest from Traveller News Service. Who cares
about whether some poor tech level 4 farmer on Dlan is blown away by a space
viking looking for a replacement Pfaucet for his wife's budoir back home. The
drama is gone. This plot made for a darn good H. Beam Piper novel, but it is
not the gist of a long campaign, it is not a reason to read the TNS(or
whatever it becomes).

Just how many campaigns can you run with the Space viking sacking the tech 4
underpopulated world. (OH this is Tuesday, lets go get that bidet on Sirius
4). Just how exciting is it going to be, to play the Brave Denebian Regency
naval Captain blowing away some bandaged 100 year old space hulk carrying
some wretched better life seeking denizens of the "wilds" who just might have
the a copy of "The Virus" onboard. Pfffooof!!!! This is a universe for a
couple of 14 year kids to play a couple of of rounds with, as a break from
AD&D. With all this low tech bang the guy on the head with a claymore sword,
going on maybe we can merge the systems). Yeah, thats the ticket.. the low
tech peaseants on Home mutated in 75 years and became ORC's, the ones on
Gushmege KOBOLDS.. Yeah thats the ticket, who needs Spelljammer, we got
TRAVELLER the New Era.

I recommend that if you have views like me, you'll make a new universe to
play and dream in.

Maybe, just maybe, I'll have Grandfather take a good hard look at the
universe, go grab a spare empty 20000 or so worlds from an unused galaxy,
enclose them in a pocket universe, and clone everybody in the GDW universe.
Then he is going to invite Strephon to a bar on Gushmege. He is going to pour
him a drink of "Old Grandad", tell him to get a grip on himself, become a
true emperor, and go out and save the empire, civilization and a damn good
campaign universe. That merchant captain out of Vland is counting on him.
Maybe, one last Black strike on a small area of Illinois, North America,
Solomani liberated Terra might still hold back the destruction.

As it stands now, the Zhodani won as the last LARGE Human Civilization.

To the late Major Virgisskiai
   3rd Brigade of the 13425 Jump Infantry Division, Imperial Army

   The sacrifice of you and your men who made up the forlorn hope raiding
party that hit that Zhondani Supply grav tank supply depot at Chronor was in
vain. The cause you died for, the way of life, your childrens future, was
sacrificed so that some 14 year old kid can buy a couple of modules of a low
tech AD&D space substitute. Your orphaned children will become peasants. The
Zhodani will dominate human civilization, the non-psionic will be slaves to
the psionic.  You wasted your life, instead of fighting and dying in the 5th
Frontier war, you should have stayed home on Vland and enjoyed the last good
years with the wife and kids.  All of us, mature traveller fans of more than
a decade, raise a glass of thanks to you and your kind..You were
extraordinary....

					With Deepest Regret
					Brian Makens


P.S:
SolSec Agent on Home:

ARGH!!!!! Just when that Solomani Party Bigwig Cental Commitee member had
brought his green-haired mistress, a vorashian flying tuber, six gallons
of vilani love oil and a trombone into the bedroom, the <bleeped>
evesdropping computer video console started spewing

      PPKKUU.....ERRY&&@@,..-==2o23r66YYYY((((00222011Kie

Why do things have to screw up, just when things are getting good!!!

#5399 Re: You are invited to a wake.....

Brian Makens mourns:

[big snip]

> Now comes this bloody virus and Survival Margin. Gone is the complex
> socio-political/technical environment. Gone are the mighty stellar empires,
> Gone is the Merchant Captain of a free trader who crossed the breath of the
> Third Imperium for the almighty Imperial Credit. Friends, we have gone from
> the struggle of Rome and Carthage straight into the Dark Ages where Hanfred
> the Drunk hacks off a peasants head to steal 4 cows.  From having an NPC who
> broke into the Imperial Research Center to steal a warbot prototype, we now
> will have a cold yokel backwater peasant whose big worry is who is molesting
> his wildesheep.

[snip]

> Just how many campaigns can you run with the Space viking sacking the tech 4
> underpopulated world. (OH this is Tuesday, lets go get that bidet on Sirius
> 4). Just how exciting is it going to be, to play the Brave Denebian Regency
> naval Captain blowing away some bandaged 100 year old space hulk carrying
> some wretched better life seeking denizens of the "wilds" who just might have
> the a copy of "The Virus" onboard. Pfffooof!!!! This is a universe for a
> couple of 14 year kids to play a couple of of rounds with, as a break from
> AD&D. With all this low tech bang the guy on the head with a claymore sword,
> going on maybe we can merge the systems). Yeah, thats the ticket.. the low
> tech peaseants on Home mutated in 75 years and became ORC's, the ones on
> Gushmege KOBOLDS.. Yeah thats the ticket, who needs Spelljammer, we got
> TRAVELLER the New Era.

PLUS, with GDW's 'house rules' combat system, you get to hack to your
heart's content!  Hey, this is great!  Combat is great!  Let's fight!
Nah! You can't get hurt!  That guy's gonna have tuh shoot ya AT LEAST
4 times _just_ to knock your guy down!  So who cares about negotiating or
leaving fighting as the last resort!  HACKFEST! shoot, hack to your
heart's content.  ;-)

Well, I suppose GDW could fix those assinine T:2K combat house rules...
Oh! Sorry, just dreaming... ;-)


> I recommend that if you have views like me, you'll make a new universe to
> play and dream in.

Gee, mabye we're gonna have tuh dust off those TDR archives... TDR II: The
Proper Era...


;-)

steve camp

#5401 The wake.

Brian Makens said the following:
> Bundle: 454
> Archive-Message-Number: 5398
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 93 12:15:07 -0700
> From: [email removed] (Brian Makens)
> Subject: You are invited to a wake.....
>
> I recommend that if you have views like me, you'll make a new universe to
> play and dream in.

TNE makes a wonderful shadow for my Amber players who are trying to
find Brand's pattern.

> Maybe, just maybe, I'll have Grandfather take a good hard look at the
> universe, go grab a spare empty 20000 or so worlds from an unused galaxy,
> enclose them in a pocket universe, and clone everybody in the GDW universe.
> Then he is going to invite Strephon to a bar on Gushmege. He is going to pour
> him a drink of "Old Grandad", tell him to get a grip on himself, become a
> true emperor, and go out and save the empire, civilization and a damn good
> campaign universe. That merchant captain out of Vland is counting on him.
> Maybe, one last Black strike on a small area of Illinois, North America,
> Solomani liberated Terra might still hold back the destruction.

Keep repeating after me, "Strephon is still the Emperor.  The Imperium
never fell.  The virus never was released.  GDW needs to spend some
time in a sanitarium."

I've been busily buying up every bit of real Traveller.  There is a
lot of neat stuff that was published.  I also have lots and lots of
stuff that I wrote up on my own.  Just because GDW doesn't support
Real Traveller doesn't mean that we can't.

Matt

#5420 Re: You are invited to a wake.....

I stack up a week's worth of TML because I don't have time to read it
(my players just unexpectedly(*) misjumped 22 parsecs from outside the
Imperium to near Attica/Querion, so I have to rush up some extra
background details for the Zhodani border), and somebody takes an axe
to my favourite soapbox... :-)

>[...] You wasted your life, instead of fighting and dying in the 5th
>Frontier war [...]

Um.  5th Frontier war?  What's that, pray tell, science fiction?
There has been no Fifth Frontier War, there has been no Rebellion --
we have always been as we are.

I think a lot of people are confusing a rules system with a campaign.
I have never used the Rebellion background, but almost everything I
have spent on MT material has paid off (or will pay off) in my
campaign, set as it is on the borders of a strong and thriving
Imperium exploring a new era of peace with the Zhodani.  I've even
used 2300AD material in the game.
    What makes a campaign successful is not the rules system, although
the rules must not be allowed to intrude, but the *feel*.  With a
consistent well thought out background, a good group of players, and
enough flexibility to take the universe where it wants to go, it
doesn't really matter what rules system is being used.  GDW's decision
to bring out a new rules system should not affect existing campaigns
- -- you can use the old rules, the new rules, and any mixture of
background you choose that blends into *your* game.  We freed
ourselves from strict adherence to the Party Line when we learnt to
say "Gygax is an insufferable moron" and reject the "If you don't use
these exact rules, I won't let you play" attitude (in the days when it
was IMHO true, not sure how Mr. Gygax's work is doing these days).
That was when, 10, 15 years ago?  I remember it well.
    I have not consciously decided whether to buy TNE.  I probably
will, and if a non-Rebellion sourcebook is added I certainly will.
GDW has usually produced stuff I find useful, and I don't expect them
to go downhill now.  How much of it I actually use verbatim depends on
how much fits in with my game.
    Whatever, GDW is *not* screwing our current campaigns.  There is
absolutely no reason why they cannot continue as they are now.  Any
campaign sufficiently well established that the GM feels irritated by
the new rules and/or background should be able to carry on by its own
momentum and the creative forces it generates within itself.
    What GDW is doing is what TSR did with AD&D -- attempting to make
a new "done right" rules set which still retains the character of the
original game.  To carry the analogy further: last time I ran a D&D
variant, I used some AD&D rules with a heavily modified magic system,
but still referred frequently to _Greyhawk_, _Blackmoor_, and
_Eldritch Wizardry_ (anyone remember those?).  When _Unearthed Arcana_
came out, and 2ed to follow that, I adapted the parts that fit and
ignored the rest.  I currently run a fairly straight MT campaign, with
increasingly modified space combat rules (personal combat I run mostly
by feel, on the rare occasions it's necessary(**)), and I expect to
take the best parts of TNE and bring them in.  If the _We Have Always
Been As We Are_ sourcebook is good enough, I may even retcon my
universe to match it more closely.  Whatever, the mere fact that GDW
is publishing new rules does *not* threaten my game, and I refuse to
get upset about it.
    Not singling anyone out, but I think several people are taking
this too personally.  Nothing wrong with criticism, of course, but I
detect a sense that some people feel screwed by TNE, and I think
they're over-reacting.  Methinks the lady doth protest too much, as it
were.


(*) somewhat unexpected.  The annual maintenance on the TL17 jump
drive was due almost a year ago, and they're having trouble finding
suitable shipyard facilities. :-)

(**) the last thing shot was the communicator in Sick Bay (the
equipment, not a person).  I didn't feel the need to refer to the
rules for that. :-)

Martyn
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