technology in the Regency...

A thread of 3 messages, 1 May 1994 to 3 May 1994, in the order they were sent.

#7408 technology in the Regency...

Which worlds do you see as breaking Tech-level 15 in the Regency
by the beginning of the New Era?

How far can a society improve technologically in 70 years?

#7421 Regency Technology

Roger Sanger [email removed] writes:

>Which worlds do you see as breaking Tech-level 15 in the Regency
>by the beginning of the New Era?

Not many, and with the possible exception of Mora, look in Deneb.
The Regency may be the most technically-advanced government after the
Collapse, but they were only a developing region beforehand, so
the infrastructure is a bit weak.  The Zhodani have a chance to
catch up, with their superior industrial strength.  Here's the
high-tech (TL 15 or 16) worlds in Deneb, selected using grep on
the TML files, circa 1118.

**TL 16**

Deneb
  Depot         1613 A100644-G  D Na Ni Va           220 Dd F9 II
  Vincennes     1122 A899AA6-G    Hi In Cp           113 Dd M7 V K1 V G1 V
  Pashus        1432 A232455-G  S Ni Po RsZ          812 Dd A9 V

Vincennes is the jewel of Deneb, and was visited in an issue of MTJ.
Note that the naval depot in Deneb is also tech level 16!  It was
smaller than the Corridor base, but more advanced in technology.

The Darrian Confederation has one world in the Marches at TL16,
Darrian, but its entire TL16 output goes to maintaining the TL16
infrastructure on the world -- standard of living is closer to TL12.
There may be a vargr world in Gvurrdon at TL16, but I forget who has
it.  I vaguely recall one from the old GDW Aliens module, coreward of
Aramis.

**TL 15**

Deneb
  Ansirk        1609 B100100-F  N Lo Ni Va           122 Dd F2 V
  Magash        0316 A400976-F  S Hi Na In Va Cp     824 Dd F8 V K7 III
  Starn         1417 B000996-F  S Hi Na In As RsB    722 Dd K0 V
  Imone         0826 A9C1555-F  N Ni Fl Cp           613 Dd M0 V
  Dekha         1128 C100A9A-F  S Hi Na In Va        210 Dd M6 V F3 V
  Bishop        1226 B201553-F  S Ni Va Ic           524 Dd M6 II
  HRD           1623 A401654-F  N Na Ni Va Ic        810 Dd M5 III
  Saguenay      0235 B438256-F  N Lo Ni              324 Dd M0 V
  Qevar         0731 A2326AE-F  A Na Ni Po Cp        403 Dd M6 V
  Jecife        1640 A439667-F  N Ni                 123 Dd F6 II

Plus a Dzarrgh Federate world and two client-states.

Spinward Marches
  Rhylanor      2716 A434934-F  A Hi Cp              810 Im M2 VI
  Mora          3124 AA99AC7-F  A Hi In Cx           112 Im M4 V
  Glisten       2036 A000986-F  A Hi Na In As Cp     821 Im K9 V
  Trin          3235 A894A96-F  A Hi In Cp           101 Im M0 V

That's right -- only four in the Marches.  (Surprise!)  Note that
one is Trin, and we all know what happened to Trin.  Ever wonder
why the Zhodani were obsessed with taking Rhylanor?  This is why.

Reft
  Lintl         0503 B739AEE-F    Hi Cp              404 Dd K2 VI

There are three more in Reft, but on the wrong side of the Great Rift.

Trojan Reaches

None.  Tobia was, but the Aslan have it.  In fact, the Aslan have
five, the Florians two, and there is one droyne world and one
non-aligned world.

***********

That is it.  Most of those won't go up.  A very few might.
More likely that a tech 14 world will go tech 15, and on
down.

Also note that the Aslan colonies and the Domain are fairly
evenly matched.  The old Aslan colonies in Troy are solidly
tech 14.  As a rough estimate, note that the Aslan have
some 53 worlds at tech 13+ (avg. in this range is 13.7) and
the Domain has 70 at tech 13+ (avg. in this range is 13.9).
This doesn't take into account population or starport, so it's
a rough measure.  It's a good thing for the Domain that the
Zhodani will have trouble with Aslan encroachments on Foreven
to keep them both busy on another front.   Also, this only
counts Aslan worlds in Troy, not in other colonial sectors.

Deneb has a fair number of tech-14 worlds, so they aren't as
thin on technology as the above may make them look.


  Steve Bonneville
  [email removed]

#7430 Regency & Aslan colonies power

Steven M Bonneville writes:
>Also note that the Aslan colonies and the Domain are fairly
>evenly matched.  The old Aslan colonies in Troy are solidly
>tech 14.  As a rough estimate, note that the Aslan have
>some 53 worlds at tech 13+ (avg. in this range is 13.7) and
>the Domain has 70 at tech 13+ (avg. in this range is 13.9).
>This doesn't take into account population or starport, so it's
>a rough measure.  It's a good thing for the Domain that the
>Zhodani will have trouble with Aslan encroachments on Foreven
>to keep them both busy on another front.   Also, this only
>counts Aslan worlds in Troy, not in other colonial sectors.

If all you're comparing is TLs then you're right. But otherwise, no, the
Aslans colonies and the Domain are NOT evenly matched. At least, not if
we are to regard the old material about the Aslans as accurate. Because
the Aslan colonies are divided into 29 major and thousands of minor
'principalities' who are unable to combine the way the Regency can. That's
why I've never been able to swallow the Aslan invasions described in
Megatraveller. Add the fact that the average _ihatei_ fleet spend a lot of
it's money on transports instead of fighting ships (after all, that's the
whole point of an _ihatei_ fleet) and that _ihatei_ are generally equipped
with obsolescent ships (that drops the effective TL a bit for a start) and
I would undertake to defend Tobia with only the subsector forces of Tobia
and Reft in 1116. Or, if through a whole series of monumental blunders some
Aslans had been allowed to get settled on a few Regency worlds, I would
undertake to take a Named Fleet and have them either kicked out or (more
likely) sworn, tax-paying citizens in a couple of years. And that's
without using a truly inspired idea for solving the problem that I came up
with some years ago.

Anyway, that the Aslans were allowed to put their paws on the whole south
bit of the Domain even for a short while surprised me. That they have been
moved out of the Regency or turned into Regency citizens again by 1200
surprises me not at all.


      Hans Rancke
University of Copenhagen
     [email removed]
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