RE: CT/TNE List

A thread of 2 messages, 18 May 1994 to 19 May 1994, in the order they were sent.

#7645 RE: CT/TNE List

Susan M. Shock · 18 May 1994

I don't see any inherent reason why the "oldsters" had to leave the mailing
list just because they didn'tlike TNE. If they had stayed and continued to
submit ship designs, adventure ideas, designs and the like, there would still
be plenty of Classic and Mega-Traveller material here. Their choice to leave
was their choice. I still think that if everyone agreed to, we could just live
in peace with each other. For instance, I run an Imperium-based game using the
TNE rules. Ideas I might come up with that aren't strictly rules based would be
useful to anyone running in the Imperium, wouldn't they? And here's a weird
thought-is there anyone out there who LIKES the Virus-based TNE background,
but prefers to use MegaTraveller or Traveller to run it? I'd be really inter-
ested in seeing ship designs etc. for something like that. Another idea: there
are some nifty things in FF&S that aren't in High Guard. How would you go about
"porting" these things backward so you could use them in the older version?
   I do agree that the constant fighting about TNE vs. CT vs MT has probably
hurt the list. I'm willing to completely drop the subject under the following
condition:
      No more insulting remarks made about either TNE nor the people who
play it. You can say "I really don't like TNE" rather than "TNE bites and so
do you".
   I'm a naturally defensive person and it really bugs me when people slam
something I enjoy. I'll try to control that, but all I ask is that others
try to control their vehement dislike of TNE and not be insulting.
  I'd really prefer to get back to talking about Traveller. I'd rather not
see the list split, not because I'm afraid of losing my "audience" but because
I really do enjoy the diversity of subject matter and opinion that a larger
list allows for.

#7664 RE: CT/TNE List

Goldman of Chaos -- postmaster CRI-US · 19 May 1994 · reply to #7645

Susan M. Shock said the following:
> I don't see any inherent reason why the "oldsters" had to leave the mailing
> list just because they didn'tlike TNE.

Signal to noise ratio.  TNE != Traveller.  The game systems are very
different.  The flavor of the games is really different.  If I wanted
realism, I'd join the army.  I'll stop ranting now.

> I'm willing to completely drop the subject under the following condition:

>       No more insulting remarks made about either TNE nor the people who
> play it. You can say "I really don't like TNE" rather than "TNE bites and so
> do you".

This seems to be a common problem with large groups.  Look at the
Classic Trek vs. Next Generation vs. DS-9 fights.  Look at the
DS-9 vs.  Babylon-5 fights.  Look at the rec.games.mecha vs. the
sci.military folks fight on the B-5 newsgroup.  Most of the fights
are silly.

I will admit that the rec.games.mecha vs. the sci.military folks fight
is fun to watch.  The giant robot fans are basing their arguments on
game rules while the sci.military folks are talking about real world
experiences.  Weird.  Catch it on the Babylon-5 newsgroup.

>   I'd really prefer to get back to talking about Traveller. I'd rather not
> see the list split, not because I'm afraid of losing my "audience" but because
> I really do enjoy the diversity of subject matter and opinion that a larger
> list allows for.

I'd like to see the list split.  That way if I have a busy day I can
save the TNE postings for another time.  Also then I can discuss the
old adventures without someone bringing up the GDW-virus.

Matt

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