Re: (1872) CAT -- Clearing the Decks

By Peter L. Berghold ·

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In reply to #1872 CAT -- Clearing the Decks by Richard Johnson Cites: #1872
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*| Last week I spouted off about being more interested in working with
*| TML sophonts on programs to help the GM, than in directly addressing
*| TDR rules-generation stuff.  This has sparked some interest, and some
*| heat as well as light.  This message is a summary of CAT to date, a
*| list of existing participants, and (I hope) removal of some floatsam.
*|
*| Current participants:
*| 	Richard Johnson		[email removed]
*| 	Chuck McKnight 		[email removed]
*| 	Paul Dale		grue@batserver.
*| 	Dan Corrin		[email removed]
*|

Add me to that list.   I am MORE than willing to participate.

*| We, so far, do not actually have a co-ordinator.  We usually just copy
*| everyone who is participating, as I am with this message.  This one I
*| felt should be echoed to the TML as well -- sort of a gentle reminder
*| to others that if they are interested, they can join in.  The feeling of
*| most of us is that software is better done quietly in private (and
*| wash your hands afterwards. :-)  Actually, we're deliberately trying to
*| avoid committee-think.
*|

OK.  So maybe the fact that the stuff I'm working on already is
written in C++ won't be a problem?   How many folks out there have
access to a C++ compiler?

*| Our primary goal right now was IMHO best expressed by Dan:
*| 	A pc in front of every ref? I could care less. I want a pc in
*| 	front of *me* while I am refing. So do others on the list, and
*| 	I just think that we should get together to program so we don't
*| 	waste our efforts.
*|

My current project for MSDOS is a program called "refaid."  This
program would allow a ref to create "people, places, and things"
and associate them with other "people, places, and things."  Sort
of a tailored RDB program.

*| Chuck is currently doing MSDOS ports of existing software on the TML.
*| Dan and Paul are working on a Deck Plan generator, and I'm just trying
*| to collect everything so I can see what programs I want to port to
*| what machines.  My eventual goal is to have a bunch of programs we can
*| put together as a package for distribution, a package that covers most
*| of the most-needed stuff.
*|

This is the one facet that I had not anticipated working on for
refaid.

*| I think most of us are out for personal fun, not profit.  We'll take the
*| cash if it falls in our laps, though.
*|

My plan was to release refaid as a user supported program.  Send me
$ if you want, but mostly I am writing refaid for the fun of it.

*|
*| Mark and Dan have been discussing the role of CAT<-->TDR.  My view, shaped
*| largely by Dan's, is that we're programming for ourselves, and sharing
*| information.  Right now we're doing MT rules, because they exist.  If,
*| in the future, someone (or several) want to port the programs to TDR rules,
*| we'll help all we can.
*|

I think that any programs that get written should have both
elements of regular mainstream traveller as well as TDR.  If
released as source code, compiler/preprocessor directives can be
added to the code to conditionally include/exclude TDR and or MT.

*|
*| I'm not sure what Robert Poole is doing, but did understand he was archiving
*| software for TDR, or something like that.  Robert, if you get your copy,
*| please let at least one of us know if and how we should co-ordinate
*| efforts.
*|

I spoke to Robert Poole and I plan to clean up some OT npc
generation programs that I wrote and post them with him.  I also am
going to (I don't know when, I'm real busy right now) port this old
code to MSDOS and release it as executables.  I also want to write
some documentation before releasing it.

I'd love to see all this happen.  I just hope it doesn't die a crib
death.....


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