Sword Worlds
In reply to #4804 Sword Worlds by Hans Rancke-Madsen
From: Hans Rancke-Madsen [email removed] >>As far as settlement goes. The indications are that the SWs knew of the >>Darrians existence when they decided to settle on Gram. >What indications? I agree that it is strange that they didn't find the >Darrians, but not inexplicable. From GDW's Darrians Alien Module 8: Rebuilding the Confederation: ... The Sword Worlds: In -399 Solomani colonists arrived in the sector and settled on Gram..... ... When the original settlers of Gram arrived in the Spinward Marches, their survey of the various systems detected the Darrian worlds and their low-tech settlement. Because the Solomani wanted to create their own independent community of worlds, they avoided contact with the Darrians and instead selected the worlds of the Sword Worlds subsector. This raises several points: 1) The Solomani settlers were actively trying to avoid contact. This explains why they didn't want to settle in the core worlds but doesn't explain why they went that way if that was their purpose? As mentioned earlier rimwards is the shortest way to go somewhere where there is noone. However since no one knew of the Zhodani existence till much later it was a valid choice if you wanted to live far from anywhere (valid but not necessarily sensible). 2) The knew of the existence of Darrians and perhaps even knew the fact that the Darrians had once been more technologically sophisticated. 3) It implies a substantial and well organised effort in that they were searching for a particular set of conditions. They probably had growth in mind before they settled considering the easy J-1 accessibility of all worlds. From: Cynthia Higginbotham [email removed] Subject: Sword Worlds About the course the SW took to get to the Marches.... >For some reason I always thought they went by way of the Reft; >this leaves the >question of "Why didn't they settle in the Trojan Reaches?" >Well, if you look at the >T.R. map, you notice a lot of worlds with classically Terran names >(not Vilani, not >Sylean, not Imperial, but Earth-flavored). I suspect that either >(a) other Terran >groups beat them there (possibly during the Rule of Man), or >(b) the Sword Worlds are a spin-off of the Trojan Reaches worlds >-- maybe they couldn't get along with them. About crossing the Reft... To me the question that is raised is how and why? If they crossed the Reft they did it for a specific reason i.e. they knew exactly where they wanted to go and then took the "shortest" path. I don't know if it is even viable to do it with J-2 maybe J-3 technology. Remember the Reft was only crossed in 1090 by a specialised Scout ship and that was done in Corridor. If they did it I can see why it took them 20 years....but I can also see them changing their minds from frustration and skimming the spinward edge of Vland into Corridor-Deneb-Marches. About SW being from Trojan reach..... I believe there is reference somewhere that indicates that Trojan Reaches was settled by Third Imperium via a route from Deneb sector. There is sufficient info elsewhere that SW did leave Terra dominated territory if not Terra itself. 20 years isn't really sufficient for the SW to reach Trojan Reach and then split up to the degree that you imply. I think it is >The "losers of a war" scenario was the first thing I thought of when I read the >questions raised in the original post. It need not have been the "Gene War". >If they had been sufficiently obnoxious in the course of whatever war they lost, >they and their kin might be persona non grata anywhere in Terran space And they might have been isolationist/racist enough not to settle in a world that was pre-populated..... Any takers on what they might have done to get so isolationist? It seems that the reasons might still be applicable to current SW as they are still have an isolationist/antogonistic attitude. >.... All of the >questions about why the Sword >Worlds are "way, way out here" are explained if the Sword Worlders were >desperately *afraid* of the Terrans they left behind. That's understandable, and would explain why they seem intent on an alliance with the Zhodani and are so focused on disrupting the Imperium especially considering their small size and low tech. However one would think that after the Solomani Rim War they would have slackened up on annoying the Imperium. Still the main question now seems to be what they did back then to be exiled? Lastly from a lack of response can I presume that no one knows when the Solomani "Gene War" occured.....?? Ameer