69:4/6857 Gravity and Gas

By Jeff Zeitlin ·

TML message #6878From bundle 549

Subject: 69:4/6857 Gravity and Gas Giants

Roger Sanger writes...

T::>One comment about your ideas concerning gaming on the surface of
 ::>a gas giant:

T::>The gravity on the surface of a gas giant would be sufficient to
 ::>literal crush a human, or even a starship.  They are typically
 ::>MANY thousands of times greater mass than the earth.

 Not necessarily.  The "archetypical" gas giant is in our own solar
 system, named Jupiter, and has an (estimated) surface G of 2.65.
 Larger gas giants would have higher surface Gs, but remember that
 gas giants are much less dense than your typical terrestrial
 planet, and surface G increases as the radius does; mass increases
 as the cube of the radius, assuming constant density.  Atmospheric
 pressure seems to be a different issue; we are talking about
 hundreds if not thousands of standard atmospheres.

T::>Theorhetically, you could build something that could withstand
 ::>that kind of environment, but humans wouldn't be able to go,
 ::>because the maximum G-level that can be nullified is 6 g's.

 ... which, see above, is well above what a Jupiter-type planet
 will offer.  Saturn, if I recall, has a surface G of 1.17, and
 Uranus and Neptune are slightly lower than Saturn.  Again, we're
 looking at a pressure problem rather than a gravity problem.

T::>The main problem with pulling too many G's on the human body is
 ::>when the pull of gravity is greater than the heart's ability to
 ::>pump the blood against it to the brain.  This results in not
 ::>enough blood reaching the brain, and results in the subject
 ::>blacking out.

 Which can certainly be a problem even in 2.64g, as the body is
 acclimated to 1g.  A person on Jupiter _could_ work, but only for
 short periods, and would have to spend a lot of time lying down,
 and get up or lie down _slowly_, to avoid fainting.

T::>In extreme gravity situations, providing oxygen would be a moot
 ::>issue, because the various mechanisms of cellular metabolism
 ::>would be hampered too greatly by the force of gravity to function
 ::>properly.  Just as you wouldn't be able to move due to your own
 ::>incredible weight, neither would your mitochondria.

 Again, see above.  In 2,64g, this is probably not going to be too
 much of a problem, though extended exposure is clearly not
 recommended.

 The stuff on free radicals and fluorocarbons was interesting; I do
 want to note that I have seen (on TV, for what it's worth)
 information that seems to indicate that they have had small
 mammals survive quite nicely for "long" periods breathing
 fluorocarbons.  For game purposes, I wouldn't rule it out totally.
 It's plausible enough.
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