Gentlesophonts:
Ed "Caffine Achiever" Fok(?) [email removed] writes:
> I would suggest that the 100th, 201 to 204th fleet be either deleted
> (persumed destoryed during the invasion) or reconsolidated into a new
> fleet due to heavy losses. (probably incorporated into the most senior
> of the five fleets) I don't know if 'displaced' is such a good description
> of what happened to fleets from conqured areas. It seem unlikely that
> these fleets would withdraw and let their keep be overrunned unless they've
> taken significant losses.
In general, I disagree based upon the Imperial naval tradition discussed
in the *Spinward Marches Campaign*. It is important to maintain the
tradition of a military unit so I doubt *any* unit would be disbanded
unless it had suffered a *particularly* stunning defeat. The units
fighting the Aslan *ihatei* most probably were not *destroyed* in a pitched
battle but rather fought a series of engagements from which they were
forced to withdraw. A similar situation would have occurred on the Vargr
front.
With this in mind I would expect *all* of the fleets to have survived in
some form or another. This would permit them to be reinforced and rebuilt
by the New Era. Recall that I mentioned the subesctor associations merely
to indicate the Rebellion-era origins of the fleets.
On another note, this entire issue of Aslan *ihatei*, Vargr and Virus
incursions into the Regency and subsequent borders must be resolved. I'll
try to start that effort in another post.
> However, If the Aslan Ihati and the Regency are at peace in the New Era,
> these fleets could be re-established with Aslan Ships.
It's my belief (desire?) that many of the *ihatei* have been incorporated
into the Regency in those former regions of the Domain that were occupied/
settled during the Rebellion era.
> Also about 1/2 to 2/3 of Aramis Subsector was overrun by the Vargr
> Invasions.
Remember, I'm the guy who never bought the idea of Vargr incursions into
the Regency in the first place. It's my view that a clever Regent ought
to have been able to keep the Vargr at bay by fostering their inherent
instability. (Some folks have claimed this policy would facilitate the
spread of Virus in the Extents.) In any event, I would expect the Regency
to have reclaimed any territory lost to the Vargr during the Rebelion era
by TNE.
> The 193rd fleet would be tasked with the job of keeping the Swordworlders
> in line (punitive strikes/aggressive patrols/showing the Regency banner).
> Given the proximity of 43rd fleet to the area of the Aslan conquest, I
> would expect the 18th (Lanth) fleet be re-delopyed to help cover that
> subsector's border with the Swordworlds.
With the *rapproachment* between the Zhodani and the Regency during TNE I
would expect the Sword Worlds to be much less of a threat without the
support of their Zhodani patrons. (Much like Cuba now.)
> Considering the central location of the 73rd (Mora) and 23rd (Rhylanor)
> Fleets, these would probably be the original core of the Patro.
The relationship between the Rebellion-era Patrol, the Quarantine Service
and the Regency Navy is one still to be discerned. Wasn't the Patrol
originally staffed by Aslan? This is why I felt many of the *ihatei* have
been incorporated into the Regency. Does any TNE material mention the
fate of the Patrol in TNE?
> However the Reft fleets
> are probably gone. Dulinor wouldn't let go of 188 perfectly good fighting
> ships so nearby.
The three Reft fleets on the spinward side of the Great Rift are clearly
safe from any sort of claim by Dulinor. Their challenge was the *ihatei*
as well.
> p.s. Great listing.
Thanks. Yours too.
> p.p.s. BTW I beleive the Deneb 212th (Lamas) should be 213th. Still
> conflict with the Regina fleet though.
Well, on a whim I've reidentified it as the 211th Group which at least doesn't
conflict with any Regency units.
Happy Travelling,
David Johnson
Houston, Texas, USA