Foreven Sector

James writes:
>Dane writes:
>>Does anybody know if a complete Traveller product list has
>>been compiled?  I got to thinking about this, since I don't know who
>>has published the Foreven sector material.  Anybody know about either
>>There are 114 lines left (37%). Press <space> for more, or 'i' to return.
>>the list or Foreven?
>
>  Foreven was declared a "Blank Land" by GDW.  Anyone can do what they
>like with it, but nothing will be published for it beyond what already
>exists in Classic Traveller materials.  The dot map with the half-dozen
>officially placed worlds appears in Imperial Lines #1, the "official"
>Traveller newsletter published by GDW (and currently stalled between
>issues 2 and 3).  All official information on Foreven is there.

A few other (now non-"canon") references were made to Foreven sector that
weren't mentioned in the Imperial Lines issue.
   *  As Scott mentioned, Foreven is marked as "Iakr" on Zhodani-centric
      maps.  The world "Parthinia", C694655-C, with an aboriginal minor
      human race, the Issugur, was located in Iakr according to an old
      Traveller product, "Alien Realms".  (Yeah, I admit to having a
      copy.  It was REAL cheap.)  It wasn't located.
   *  One of the companies in "Book 7: Merchant Prince" was headquartered
      on a world which was located in Foreven somewhere that was not on
      the "official list".  I don't have a copy, or I'd check it out.
Both references were in GDW products.

I have a question or two, too.  According to IL #1, Zdovesil/Anika
is the Zhodani provincial capital in Foreven.  I seem to recall
something about the Zhodani government not being organized at the
sector level.  Does this mean that Zdovesil is the capital of
"Iadr Nsobl" province, or just of Foreven   Since it is effectively
in the Zhodani "rear area", and is near the center of the province,
I'd lean toward the first, but it isn't clear in the article.

Do the Zhodani use sector grids anyway?  I thought that was supposed
to be a Vilani innovation that was mostly used by the Imperium, former
Imperial states (like the Solomani Confederation) and worlds influenced
by the Imperium.

- --Steve

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> Bundle: 491
> Archive-Message-Number: 5927
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 18:39:42 PDT
> From: James Kundert [email removed]
> Subject: Foreven Sector
>
> Dane writes:
> <Does anybody know if a complete Traveller product list has
> <been compiled?  I got to thinking about this, since I don't know who
> <has published the Foreven sector material.  Anybody know about either
> <the list or Foreven?

	I have a complete list of Traveller products somewhere;
	however, since my gaming stuff was the first stuff extracted
	from the ruins of our old apartment I don't know where most
	stuff is yet.

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> Bundle: 491
> Archive-Message-Number: 5930
> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 15:35:07 BST
> From: ANTHONY KAY BAGGALEY [email removed]
> Subject: New Member Here...
>
>  Now, this message was just to say hello and stop me feeling like a voyeur,
>  but I've thought of one thing to say-  since the dust cleared/blood dried
>  over the Fusion Engine arguement, mention of TNE has been rather light, ie.
>  no discusion on the Arses or Regency, and most interest has been in non-TNE
>  subjects ( notice how people got stuck into the Zhodani thread- who are the
>  least changed area in TNE).
>
>  So, do people really consider "The Non-Event" as part of the Traveller
>  Universe we played in for years, or just as a new SFRPG. I mean, with a new
>  rules system and a new background, is it any more Traveller than 2300?,(and
>  that game had the Traveller name to start with, and PGMPs) even the Technology
>  has changed from Classic/MT.

I look at the TNE as a seperate game.  I bought a used copy
at the same time as I picked up Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, another
really unique game from GDW.

	TNE:  The universe as we know it has been destroyed and it is
	many years later.  We have to rebuild/survive.

	C&D:  The Earth as we know it has been destroyed and it is
	many years later.  We have to rebuild/survive.

	T2000: The Earth as we know it has been destroyed and it is
	many years later.  We have to rebuild/survive.

	Any other GDW game:  The <place> as we know it has been
	destroyed.  We have to rebuild/survive.

That really gets old after a while.
>
>  I was just wondering how many people have actually changed over to the TNE
>  rules (or even background) or plan to do so when TTA comes out?

	I don't really see the need to switch over to TNE.  I'll more
	than likely pick up the various components as they hit the
	used game market.  I can't very well complain about the game
	if I haven't read through it.

>  I've wasted enough bandwidth so I'll sign off before I think of something
>  useful to say
>                    Glad to be aboard
>                           Anthony Baggaley (who is not as bitter as he
>                                                                sounds)

Ditto.

Matt

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Scott 2G Kellogg says:

>Subject: Foreven (Ikar) sector
>Date: Sun, 22 Aug 93 21:07:26 CDT
>
>Ikar sector (Foreven to you Imperials) is supposedly a blank spot
>on the Trav map.  Check out the ImperialLines #1 (or 2?)

 Once again, proof is presented to the world at large that even the
Zhodani nuts can't spell the language.
 The Zhodani designation for Foreven is IAKR (ee-Yak-ur).

 Don't worry, Scott, you aren't alone in this affliction.
James Kundert [email removed]

There was a young lady named Bright,
Whose speed was much faster, much faster than Light.
She departed one day in a relative way,
And returned on the previous Night.
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