Re: (1696) Black globes and gravity
In reply to #1696 Black globes and gravity by Adrian Hurt
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- #1699 Re: Black globes and gravity by Bertil Jonell
In nessage 1696, [email removed] (Adrian Hurt) writes: > >Scott Kellogg writes (via Stephen D Smith): > >> As a dedicated high guard vessel, an experiment in jump >> technology has been tested in the prototype: the 'ANNIC NOVA' jump >> technique. This drive does not use liquid hydrogen, but... >> >> **********CLASSIFIED*********CENSORED********** >> >> *...influx from the black globe. As all energy is absorbed by the >> globe, the ship would use this energy for jump. The ship would dive >> into a planets gravity well and turn the globe on. Light, heat, and >> gravitation are converted into usable energy and this is dumped into >> the jump drive. > >If a black globe can absorb gravity and turn it into usable energy, does >this violate the law of conservation of energy? I wondered about this myself. I first heard about Black Globes when I first bought _High Guard_ about nine years ago. I've tried to keep relatively current since. ;-) I've never heard that a Black Globe had any effect on gravity at all. Electromagnetic energy and physical projectiles, sure, but gravity? >Also, what happens to a piece of matter which hits a black globe? Does >it bounce off, or get converted to usable energy too? If it "bounces", >what happens to its kinetic energy? I always assumed that the Black Globe was modeled on the Langston Field from Jerry Pournelle's Co-Dominium series. It was black, absorbed all electromagnetic energy that struck it and stopped fast projectiles cold. There are differences between the Langston field and the Black Globe, though. When the Langston Field had absorbed lots of energy (from the lasers, nuclear explosions and other dangerous whatnot of space combat), it would start to radiate it back out into space in all directions (black body radiation, I assume). If, however, it had to absorb too much energy, it bled through to the ship inside the field, and the whole shootin' match blew up (sound familiar?). Another difference is that material objects *can* pass through the Langston field, if they are moving slowly enough (very slowly--like molasses running uphill in winter). Also, the ship inside the field can poke antennae and such through the field so that they can have a look around (of course, once they're outside the field, the bad guys outside can shoot them off--minor drawback). Couldn't maneuver, though--they used reaction drives, and it could ruin your day to have your exhaust trapped inside the field with you. :-) Okay, where has this taken us? To the issue of material objects (missiles, asteroids, planets, old beer cans, etc.) striking the surface of a Black Globe, I hope. I'd say that, upon striking the Globe, the object loses its kinetic energy to the Globe (relative to the ship, of course), and stops. It could then drift off, I suppose, or have an entirely new vector applied to it by whatever way the ship happened to be heading at the time. In short, it "bounces off," in a manner of speaking, having its original kinetic engergy absorbed by the field, and then getting a brand new batch from the field. This could possibly be described as a conservation-violating collision. Of course, if you use a sufficient amount of handwaving, you can violate physics all you want. ;-) > >- -- > "Keyboard? How quaint!" - M. Scott > > Adrian Hurt | JANET: [email removed] > UUCP: ..!ukc!cs.hw.ac.uk!adrian | ARPA: [email removed] > - - -- Brent INTERNET: [email removed] [address removed] PHONE: [phone removed] (voice)