The following messages have been posted on GEnie since Sunday evening. As
you can see, discussion is starting to slow down. I took the liberty of
deleting a couple of messages that strictly pertain to GEnie's ability
to handle multiple kbyte posts from us. (-: (Regardless of whether or not
they are inhibited over there, they don't talk very much, compared to us.
(-: (-: )
Rob Dean
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Topic 29 Mon Nov 18, 1991
DIGEST.GROUP [Staff] at 00:43 EST
Sub: The WISH List
You know that the new Traveller is coming soon to a game store near you - but
is you had your way, what would you want to see in it?
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Category 11, Topic 29
Message 84 Sun Dec 01, 1991
M.MIKESH at 20:12 EST
Jay -
<If you can't edit out some of the more offensive messages to
post elsewhere I would appreciate the entire batch going elsewhere.>
It almost seems as though Topic 26 has turned into what you
intended Topic 29 to be. This seems workable, rather than dumping
to Topic 3. But if you have an objection, maybe Rob Dean could
establish another topic specifically as a GEnie/TML interface.
A) Have they ever used [T2K], read it, or know anything FIRST
HAND about it.
Yes, as a player, not a ref. Too combat oriented for my tastes.
B) Do they use the MT task system.
Definitely. Its an excellent system, but I won't have a tantrum
if we loose it.
MIKE
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Category 11, Topic 29
Message 85 Sun Dec 01, 1991
GDW.SUPPORT [Loren W.] at 20:19 EST
As the person who asked Carl to post the TML messages, I feel responsible.
Perhaps the solution is to start a separate TML topic, or to post the
messages in the library. In any case, I am with Carl in that I don't want to
read only good remarks...I specifically asked him to give me all comments
about Traveller. I appreciate what Carl and Rob have done for GDW so far, as
all feedback is useful, even highly critical feedback.
I take issue with some people's remarks, but I find I agree with some
others...
Loren
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Message 86 Sun Dec 01, 1991
DIGEST.GROUP [Staff] at 21:45 EST
Yeah, a TML topic would be just the thing. That way, those who don't want to
have to wade through buckets of messages can just ignore that particluar
topic.
- - Jay
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Category 11, Topic 29
Message 87 Sun Dec 01, 1991
M.MIKESH at 23:46 EST
Jay -
A TML topic will help a lot of folks -- those that casually monitor
this category. It'll still have a lot of readers, though, including
myself.
MIKE
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Category 11, Topic 29
Message 88 Mon Dec 02, 1991
DIGEST.GROUP [Staff] at 00:57 EST
I'll be reading it myself. I'm sorry if I've been sounding terribly pickey
about this because I don't want to give the wrong impression. I think that the
TML stuff SHOULD DEFINITELY be posted in this category. Since those folks
can't participate in these conversations directly, this is the next best
thing. It also increases the amount of input GDW gets on the new revision
(which is a BIG help I'm sure). The more voices heard, the more of an overall
look they can get at people's perspectives on the subject. My ONLY complaint
is about where the messages are ending up. Most of the stuff seems like it
fits in fine but some of the really vocal folks who have NOTHING positive to
contribute make me cringe because that's not why I started this topic. Again,
they should all be heard, but I didn't think that this was the place to do it.
Since I seem to be the only one who thinks so though, go ahead and keep
putting them here.
- - Jay
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Message 90 Mon Dec 02, 1991
M.TURNAGE1 at 21:09 EST
78 Jay: I seem to be one of the few, but I've been there all along through T2k
1st _and_ 2nd, and seem to be one of the very rare few that's run it more than
once. I've also been running MT since it came out.
I was one of the first to come out against the T2k system...I'm less wary
now, but still casting a VERY critical eye. My two main problems have been A)
Its lack of a task system and B) Compatibility of characters -- The UPP is a
nice and simple concept, plus I like the idea of being able to do a
character's stats in less than a minute.
A) is not so much of a problem now, though I'm still playing around with the
task system Les posted in a DC game I've been running -- I figure if it works
for the original system, it should work when modified for Traveller. BTW,
I've done some number crunching...I actually like its probabilities more than
the MT task system's in a lot of ways. Be warned: It's a linear system of
probabilities instead of on a bell curve: Routine tasks are harder, while
Formidibles and Impossibles are easier. I'll upload a detailed analysis soon.
B) I'm not so sure...if we must see a change in basic statistics, I'd like
to see a simple linear change ie. just add +3 to everything. I'm not too sure
if I want to see anything added, though I would like to see a Charisma stat;
Social Standing should be kept, but I'd like to see it determined by something
else.
Actually, that should probably be put on the wish list: A more realistic
determination of social standing. With the end of most large interstellar
governments, this will become much more subjective.
RE the Virus: I may have missed something, but my impression was that the
"virus" quickened the collapse, but wasn't the cause. I also got the
impression that this didn't get rid of all the computers,only certain ones at
the high TL's, say 14-15. This hurts the real high-tech planets, but doesn't
directly effect the majority of mid-range TL planets (Tl 9-12). It also wipes
a lot of the remaining high tech fleets.
Most probably it _doesn't_ effect non-Imperial computers, and once its
existence is known precautions can be taken. However, the major damage is
already done. And every so often, a backwater world gets ahold of a piece of
junk or salvaged computer from one of the higher TL worlds...
Mark
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