Mike Metlay:
>I envy you greatly, Steve, if you can honestly say that you have
>rarely if ever seen a bad Ref running Traveller. In my experience of
>the fourteen years the game has been in general circulation, the
>proportion of truly awful Traveller refs, players and games I have
>seen has been uncomfortably high. Maybe I ought to move to where
>y'all are, since you seem to have had better luck than me....
Alas, it wouldn't help to move here, since most of my Traveller
playing was done in other places, at other times.
Mark C.:
>> I have played Traveller ever since it came out, under a
>>variety of GMs (mostly good. Bad GMs seem to stick to D&D).
>
>What *IS* it with you people and D&D?!? I can't think of any other
>example of in all my personal experience to compare with the "holier-
>than-thou", elitist *bullshit* I see on rec.games.frp, and the TML,
>when it comes to the subject of D&D. You just can't seem to slam
>it enough.
Apologies for even SEEMING to slam D&D (in any of it's incarnations).
While it is true that most of the terrible GMs I have known stuck with
D&D, it is also true that some of the very best GMs I know stuck
exclusively to D&D.
>Complain about the *RULES*? For Christ's sake!! It's the oldest
>FRP still in wide-spread use! So it's been through 2 revisions.
>You can only change it so much before it stops being D&D and starts
>being some other FRP. You can find tons of flaws in *ANY* game
>system, (including, as we all know, our beloved Traveller), just like
>you can find devotees of any game system.
Why should I complain about the rules? They MUST be doing something
right, or the game would never have susrvived this long. I never
argue with success.
>Complain about the players? Again, oldest system in existance. Of
>*COURSE* there are lots of bad D&D players. There are also lots of
>*GOOD* ones! When you've been around that long, you're going to pick
>up plenty of both. It's just that the *BAD* D&D players get more
>press (mostly from some RPG snobs I won't mention by name). To
>quote Sturgeon's Law, "Ninty percent of *EVERYTHING* is crap."
This also is true. I have never denied it, and never would. But the
bad D&Ders get more press because there are more of them (more players
implies more bad players, all else equal). And Sturgeon's Law just
about covers it, all right...
BTW, why are we arguing about D&D?
Later...
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