re: Tech Level Advancements

By Bruce E Johnson ·

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In reply to #6574 Tech Level advancements... by Anthony Neal
	Anthony writes:
>...Quite a reduction in size, and we haven't even advanced a Tech level!!
	(talking about CD players in specific, and computer and electronic
technology in general)

	Well, to get picky, you CD player analogy is off a bit...if you
look inside a tabletop CD player, most of it is either empty space, or
power supply.  The actual electronics and mechanism are generally much
closer in size to your Discman.  Of course, Sony has made a long corporate
history of miniturizing things.

	However, some of the stuff can't go down.  Recall, for instance
your "Infamous"  model hand computer, that at Tl11 is 0.5 kg, vs 50,000
at Tl5. Much of the weight is in things that cannot be reduced, like
keyboards, and readable screens, or at least touchpad areas large enough
to be useable. This limit has already been reached in our day and age...we
can make computers that'll fit in a matchbook (AMD has a complete "XT on a
chip"- all you add is memory and a battery, and the various connectors)
The problem, as many companies have found when marketing them, is that
humans have not miniturized well enough to keep pace, our fingers are
still those comparatively pudgy things that get in each other's way when
typing on a small keyboard (or like mine...when typing on a normal
keyboard ;-).  So size will not continue to go down...I suspect that in
truth, size will hit a certain plateau, while function continues to go up.

	Besides, a 100 mg robot brain (a true peabrain!!) is pretty
ludicrous...the miniturization required there pushes stuff way beyond
physical limits.  At that complexity/size ratio, you can't use electrons;
they'll just tunnel around rather than stay in their appointed circuits.
Photons would have similar problems. And biology, well, biology does
pretty well at brains that size, but I'd be scared to let something with
the brainpower of a pigeon control anything!

	Maybe I hit upon the answer earlier...use something like a
complexity/size ratio rather than size alone.

	Of course if Cadillacs followed the same technology/pricing that
computers have, they'd cost about $0.05 apiece (in quantity, more on
carriers for suitable surface mounting :), and be 1/4" in size!

	Bruce Johnson
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