Re: GEnie files

By Rob Miracle ·

TML message #988From bundle 89Read the whole thread (6 messages)All messages with this subject

In reply to #987 Re: GEnie files by Brent L. Woods Replies:
> >Bad news... GEnie, like CIS is *controlled acces*. You have to sign up.
>
> >Anybody planning on downloading thoise files and posting them to the
> >list had better read the fine print of their service agreement. I lay
> >odds that itr *specifically* states that what we want to do is not
> >permiited.
>
>     However, the new copyright laws don't really apply to contractual
>obligations between service provider and client.  I have to admit that
>I didn't even think of that.  Unfortunately, I've never seen the text
>of any of the contracts that the information services use (I *do* speak
>legalese--you can't beat a system you don't understand).  Anybody know
>what these contracts say?

I will upload the contract and mail it to anyone who wants to see it.  It
doesn't look good.  I don't do legalese, but it was pretty clear, downloads are
not copyiable, so it looks like a mute point now.  I may send E.Mail to Mark
Miller (our dear author of Traveller) and see what he has to say.  I will also
find a DGP person to ask them also.

Most all of the Sector Data has Copyright(c)s attached to them.  A lot of the
other stuff does not.  Now the argument here is that the Traveller Group is a
Support center for Traveller products.  Much like Borland International is on
CIS as a service to it's customers, Traveller is on GEnie.  Borland uploads bud
fixes and such and makes them available to their customers free.  Microsoft
does the same.  Example, you can download printer drivers for MS-Word or you
can get a diskette from Redmon WA for $BUCKS.  In the MS case, you can't
redistribute it.

Now if GDW & DGP chose GEnie for this purpose, then they may be there to give
support to Traveller people world wide.  Their information may be for any owner
of Traveller and the only people who would get upset would be GE for having 50
people get (how many people are on the list anyway?) the files for the cost of
one download.

Rob
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