re: Starship Economics
In reply to #2630 PIGS (sorry, Profits) IN SPACE.. by Simon Anderson
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- #2669 Starship Ecomomics by Simon Anderson
Simon Anderson writes: > The same thing goes for small starships - Ok, so It's cheaper to have > someone else move the cargo on their starship, but they aren't going to > have a starship in the first place unless they're intending to make a > profit on it themselves by moving speculative cargo's. > This means there can be lots of smaller free and far-traders shuttling > back and forth, only taking regular freight when they can't find enough > speculative cargo. The free traders are there because the planetary > governments want people who haven't got access to their own starship to > have a chance to make some money too - then they can tax them :-) No, that is the niche filled by the Subsidized Merchant (the ones the Government pays for and runs). They provide the grunt service for all those investors without a starship of their own. The free/far trader guys are the ones who go to the bank to ask for a loan: Capt Helsson (free trader captain wannabe): "Sir, I would like to borrow MCr30 to buy a starship." Mr. Carcharias (vice president in charge of the Loan Dept): "Well, that's fine. We like to see young people go into business for themselves. Can you show me your business plan, please?" Capt Helsson: "Well, sir, I was planning on gambling on my inherent genius to come out ahead in this operation." Mr Carcharias: "Hmmm... Why don't we talk about this AFTER you can show me a detailed plan to make enough money to pay us back. We don't normally subsidize trips to Vegas to play roulette." < later > Mr Carcharias: "well, sir, it is good to see you again! What can I do for you today?" < capt Helsson hands Mr Carcharias business plan. Mr Carcharias studies it while Helsson talks. > Capt Helsson: "Sir, you asked me for a business plan. I have one here. I have information that the new source of pharmaceuticals in District 268 will produce a large, steady demand for starship transportation to markets. As you can see, my plan is built around the idea of purchasing the drugs on site, and transporting them to markets to exchange them for goods the producers need <blah, blah, blah............> < Mr Carcharias sets down plans and smiles broadly > Mr Carcharias: " well, that is good news. This is just the kind of plan we like to see before we release our money into a long term loan. And, if your estimates are correct, you should be able to pay the loan back within 15 years. That really is well thought out, sir. we shall, of course, have to process the paperwork, which should take no more than a few weeks, but I can assure you that your loan will be approved as written." Capt Helsson: < rising > "thank you, sir. I really appreciate that. I'll be back to sign the paperwork as soon as it is completed." Mr Carcharias : < also rising > "Sir, it is a pleasure. My secretary will call you within two weeks to finalize the agreements." < Helsson leaves > Mr Carcharias: < to secretary > "Doris, can you ring up Thor Tukera for me, please?" < phone rings, Carcharias answers.> Mr Carcharias: "Thor, I just heard a reliable rumor that there is a lot of money to be had in a new route down in District 268. If you could release a few long-liners to duty there, we could make a bundle. And, as a bonus, there should be several nearly new merchant ships, all quite well designed, available there in the next few months. Quite reasonable prices, too, I should think... Of course I'll send the details to your office, this very afternoon. Good talking to you, Thor. BTW, what is my dividend on my personal Tukera stock expected to be this quarter? That high? EXCELLENT. Good day, Thor." Mr Carcharias: < to Doris > "Please expedite that young man's application, Doris. We wouldn't want to disappoint him. Or Tukera." Notes: 1) If a good spec trade route already exists, a major corporation will have it tied up solidly. 2) Ownership of the major mega-corporations is so interlocked (source: MegaTraveller) is so interlocked, they might as well be considered to have identical interests. This includes Hortalez et Cie, THE major banking interest and source of starship loans in the Imperium, as well as most lesser banks. 3) Purely local banks are unlikely to finance a purchase involving removal of the borrower and the collateral some months travel beyond their reach, which is why Hortalez is the main source of starship loans. 4) Assuming your business plan is based on speculative trade, it will mostly likely be a newly profitable route. If the route continues to be profitable, in the long run Tukera or a similar large shipping firm will undoubtably move in and take it over. 5) Given: you have to explain your route to the lending agency. Given: the lending agency is a part-owner or is owned by Tukera or other major shipping firm, it is not unreasonable that the lending agency might inform its parent of any potentially profitable leads that it acquires. A secret shared is no longer a secret. 6) It is also not unreasonable that the lending agency will make a loan in spite of the fact that it knows that no profit will be made and the starship will be repossessed. This is because they can then sell the starship to Tukera or whoever at a breakeven price for the bank, and at a considerable profit for Tukera. The only loser is the poor schmuck who got the loan. 7) This happens in the real world. In the U.S., we have Anti-Trust Laws and insider trading regulations, etc to prevent this sort of thing. However, indications are that the Imperium does not interfere in business to that extent, especially since the imperial family and the high nobility are significant stockholders in said megacorporations. Expect such scenarios to be even more common in Margaret's Imperium. Again, the upshot is that, given the *present* pricing scheme, in the Imperium, most commercial starships will be owned by the government in the form of subsidized merchants, or government-protected in the form of megacorporate ships. Is this the picture of the Imperium that you want? --- Steve & Cynthia