Standard guns and ammo

Let's review the current situation.

Pistol, Centerfire, Semi-Auto, Narrow Skirt Ammo
       .25 ACP (6.35mm)
       7.62mm Tokarev M30
       7.63mm Mauser
       7.65mm (.30) [Walther PP series, for example]
       .32 ACP
       .380 ACP (9mm Short) [Multitudes of modern pistols]
       9mm Sov [Makarov]
       9mm Parabelum [Multitudes of modern pistols]
       10mm [Smith and Wesson 1006 and 1076, Glock 22]
       .41 AE [Jericho 941 and 941F, Smith and Wesson models]
       .45 ACP (11.4mm) [Colt M1911A]

Pistol, Centerfire, Revolver, Wide Skirt Ammo
       .357 Magnum [Revolvers, IMI Desert Eagle]
       .38 Long
       .38 Special
       .41 Magnum [Revolvers, IMI Desert Eagle]
       .44 Special
       .44-40
       .44 Magnum [Revolvers, IMI Desert Eagle]
       .45 Long Colt
       .455 SAA [Webley Revolver]

Rifle, Centerfire, Military (Military cartridges have Ball, Tracer,
Incendiary, Balistite, Training and AP rounds)
       4.7mm Caseless [G11 Assault Carbine]
       5.45mm Sov M-74 [AK-74 and derivatives]
       5.56mm Nato (.223 Remington) [M-16, Galil, S-80]
       7.62mm Nato (.308) [M-14, M60, Galil Sniper Rifle, LAR, FAR]
       7.62mm Sov M-43 [AK-47 and derivatives]
       7.62mm Sov M-54R [PKS, SVD]
       .50 (12.7mm Nato) [Barret M-80]

Rifle, Centerfire, Civilian
       .222 Magnum              .30-40 Krag
       .250                     .300 Magnum
       .270                     .303
       .280                     .308 (7.62mm Nato)
       7mm Mauser               .350
       7mm Magnum               .375
       .30 Carbine              .458 Magnum
       .30-06                   .460 Magnum

Looks bad enough?
Lets examine the most popular cartridge in the world - 9mm Parabelum:

The standard ball bullet is 115 grain full metal case (FMC) projectile.
But there are alternatives - I carry 122 grain FMC rounds in my pistol,
a friend of mine has alternating 147 grain semi-jacketed hollow point
(SJHP) and 127 grain FMC. There are also 94 grain jacketed hollow point
(JHP), 105 grain silvertip HP (SHP), 115 grain military grade FMC made
with stronger propellant (the +P rating of some 9mm Para bullets is the
civillian version of this type) which can damage pistols firing it too
many times (these rounds are for submachineguns - UZI, MAC-11, etc).

There is now a shotgun round for the 9mm - 8 pellets in a container round,
Glazer safety slugs, 85 grain high speed FMC, 100 (or near) grain soft nose
bullets. There are types I do not know about, probably.

In addition, the weights of the weapons seem wildly off the mark. Lets
examine a modern pistol in detail. The pistol is Smith and Wesson 5904
semi auto (indeed, the pistol I carry):

                S&W 5904        TL7 9mm Auto
Length:           195mm           200mm
Weight:           780gm          1350gm
Rounds:         15/20              15
15x115grain FMC: ~200gm
15x122grain FMC: ~180gm (very light round cases)
15x147grain SJHP:~400gm
15x9mm Imperial                   200gm
15x9mm AP Imperial                150gm

Problems: Weight! The heaviest 9mm I am acquainted with (CZ-75) weighs around
1000gm. The lightest (Glock 19) weighs around 480gm. Where did the 1350 figure
come from?

Bertil?

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| Marc A. Volovic -                       Procrastinator and do-no-gooder|
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|             Dept. of Linguistics, Hebrew University, Mt. Scopus        |
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