Re: Standard guns and ammo
In reply to #2820 Standard guns and ammo by Marc Alexandrovich Volovic
> In addition, the weights of the weapons seem wildly off the mark. Lets > examine a modern pistol in detail. The pistol is Smith and Wesson 5904 > semi auto (indeed, the pistol I carry): > > S&W 5904 TL7 9mm Auto > Length: 195mm 200mm > Weight: 780gm 1350gm > Rounds: 15/20 15 > 15x115grain FMC: ~200gm > 15x122grain FMC: ~180gm (very light round cases) > 15x147grain SJHP:~400gm > 15x9mm Imperial 200gm > 15x9mm AP Imperial 150gm > > Problems: Weight! The heaviest 9mm I am acquainted with (CZ-75) weighs around > 1000gm. The lightest (Glock 19) weighs around 480gm. Where did the 1350 figure > come from? In 3G, the weight of the gun is dependent on the power of the round, which directly affects the mass of the reciever and barrel, but the barrel is greatly affected by length. The resulting weight of the gun can be reduced by putting a multiplier on the price. I suspect that I put a 0.75 mod on the weight of that gun, which gave a 2.0 mod on the price. The reason why it gets so heavy, is that the round has to be much more powerful to penetrate AF 2, which compares to 5mm armor plate. Computing actual penetration in mm using 3G/Timelords and crossreferencing this on the Striker/MegaT chart of armor mods to get the penetration. This ment that it was harder to get the lower penetrations (1-6) but much easier to get the higher penetrations (7+) with the weapons. I 'punched up' the load of some of the lighter weapons and rounds to reach their rated penetration in MegaT, but I didn't decrease it for those that begun to overachieve. (A quick check with 3G gives that a TL7 9mmP has a DV (Damage Value, it gives the penetration in MegaT) of 22, but the 9mm auto in the Imperial Encuclopedia has a Pen of 2, and the round would need a DV of 27 to get a Pen of 2. There wouldn't be any difference in penetration ability between a 9mmP or a .357 Magnum if I did them with the real propellant loads, since all of them would get a penetration of 1. (DV's between 14 and 26 are Pen 1, because the Striker/MegaT armor factors are too far apart at the low end of the scale: AF 1 = 2.5mm, AF 2 = 5mm, AF 3 = 7.5mm)) Hmmm... (sound of opinion changing) I think I'm beginning to agree with Rob about lowering the AVs of the armors, so that I wouldn't have to boost the rounds, but what do we do with all the futuristic armors that we don't know how thick they are? Keep as is? Divide by 2? Remember that the AF of 18 for a Battledress-15 means that it's armor equals 5cm of armor plate! > | Marc A. Volovic - Procrastinator and do-no-gooder| - -bertil- P Regina 239-1121 The spokessophont for the chamax plague issued a statement yesterday where it protested the non-equal treatment the chamax plague is recieving on the joke front. Usually well disinformed sources expect other groups like the 'Kinunir', the 'Bright Face' and the 'Marooned' will follow up with statements of their own soon. - -- "Det a"r en Svensk grej. Du skulle inte fo"rsta^..."